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Reply to Letter to the Editor| Volume 84, ISSUE 2, e33, February 2013

Reply to Letter: Drowning: guidelines extant, evidence-based risk for rescuers

      Sir
      I thank Tipton, Golden, and Morgan for their feedback on my recent commentary where I suggested that two recent studies provided evidence that their proposed search and rescue guidelines may err on the side of pessimism when determining when a rescue attempt should move on to a body recovery phase.
      • Deakin C.D.
      Drowning: more hope for patients, less hope for guidelines.
      Tipton and Golden's original review
      • Tipton M.J.
      • Golden F.S.
      A proposed decision-making guide for the search, rescue and resuscitation of submersion (head under) victims based on expert opinion.
      resulted in a number of letters documenting serious methodological flaws and as a result has not unfortunately provided the clear search and rescue guidance that was intended.
      • Perkins G.D.
      Rescue and resuscitation or body retrieval – the dilemmas of search and rescue efforts in drowning incidents.
      • Perkins G.D.
      Rescue and resuscitation or body retrieval – the dilemmas of search and rescue efforts in drowning incidents.
      Although I agree with Tipton, Golden, and Morgan that there is a difference between submersion and immersion, the time at which this occurs is almost always unknown and is not a factor that can be used to distinguish potential survival times; certainly the papers quoted in their original study generally do not distinguish between submersion and immersion.
      • Tipton M.J.
      • Golden F.S.
      A proposed decision-making guide for the search, rescue and resuscitation of submersion (head under) victims based on expert opinion.
      A useful way forward would be to establish an international database with an appropriate dataset, in order to record all cases of people recovered from water, rather than relying on a dataset marred by publication bias where little is written about those who have died.

      Conflicts of interest statement

      Resuscitation Guidelines Lead, Joint Royal Colleges Ambulance Liaison Committee, UK.
      Chair, Medical & Survival Sub-Committee, RNLI.
      Divisional Medical Director, South Central Ambulance Service.
      Immediate past Co-Chair, Advanced Life Support Working Group, ILCOR.

      References

        • Deakin C.D.
        Drowning: more hope for patients, less hope for guidelines.
        Resuscitation. 2012; 83: 1051-1052
        • Tipton M.J.
        • Golden F.S.
        A proposed decision-making guide for the search, rescue and resuscitation of submersion (head under) victims based on expert opinion.
        Resuscitation. 2011; 82: 819-824
        • Perkins G.D.
        Rescue and resuscitation or body retrieval – the dilemmas of search and rescue efforts in drowning incidents.
        Resuscitation. 2011; 82: e5
        • Perkins G.D.
        Rescue and resuscitation or body retrieval – the dilemmas of search and rescue efforts in drowning incidents.
        Resuscitation. 2011; 82: 799-800